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发表于 2008-12-19 22:00
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measurements don't tell everything, far from it, and the complexity of sound perception is such that they don't mean the same thing for everybody.
i just felt like there was an important point to make around what zaph said, that a distortion measurement is worth any amount of subjective impressions (it was a little rougher than that) and scottG reaction that this was a subjective assessment.
I definately don't agree with scottg for one reason, and that was the whole point i was trying to make.
subjective impressions are subject to individual variations, determined by difference of ear perception, but also musical habits, and previous listening , as you very well pointed out .
measurements on the other side as imperfect as they may be , produce data, data you can reproduce if you want, with only minor variations in results, there are rules and quantification of the result, so that they have a particular meaning, wich may introduces other consequences, and may not be percieved the same way by everyone.
my point is that there is no point of comparison between subjective impressions. however, when you got measurements, you can learn to link your subjective likings to measurements, and learn what particular behaviour sounds best to your ear. It's only this way that you could ever give a valid advice to someone, especially because of the point you've made, we all percieve sound differently, that's why we need reference, even if they're not the TRUTH, they're certainly part of the answer , and this is why when somebody asks for advice about a driver, I think that measurement is an invaluable step, nobody is gonna argue about that when we talk fr or t&s , and i think it's the same with distortion, even if it's a way more complicated topic, as you can show the data in many different ways
测试比拼并不能说明一切,特别是在复杂的音频方面,其对于每个人来说都是带有主观的印象,带有主观性的评价.测量本身也是有局限性,测量方法也不见得被别人接受.测量在某些程度上依赖主观意识来实施,目的是了解能取悦自己耳朵的方面东西.这就需要一种参考,当然这种标准不见得是正确,对于失真,更复杂,更是说不清......
看来这种测试没有价值? 当然至少会影响别人.别人最好只做参考,接近去采纳自己主观愿意接受的,避开不可接受的.不要被其左右,那才是有参考意义. |
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发表于 2008-12-19 14:26
